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3 Idiots, Below Average Flick With Above Average Hype

3 Idiots, Just Bovine Crap ?

The reviews were glowing, exit interviews waxed eloquent and my own friends were fawning — a few even did the ‘Jahapana tussi great ho ; tohfa kubool karo‘ ;  sans downing the trousers fortunately !

Aamir Khan rings in the box-office moolah with 3-Idiots. Again” proclaimed the headlines. Every critic who could be bought and his aunt made a beeline to hail Aamir the undisputed Jahapanah of Bollywood, and 3-Idiots, the best phillum ever.

Aamir “Ghajini” Khan + Rajkumar “MunnaBhai” Hirani + Vidhu Vinod Chopra  + 2 sidekicks from ‘Rang De Basanti’ + a whole lot of hype = Best Movie Ever

The hype caught up, curiosity got the better of my reasoning (read a rare 2.5/5 review by rediff.com) and, a week ago, I watched ’3 Idiots’.

Our Verdict :It was a masala Bollywood movie that was entertaining in parts. It had dabs of freshness. True. But that was akin to a lipstick on a pig.

Among the good, it is about chasing your dreams and chasing those dreams on your own terms ; it is about accepting the dogmas at times and yielding to the same in others ; it is about the effervescence and the carefree nature of college life ; it is about friendships prevailing in the face of adversity ; it is about all things we all can relate to and have seen umpteen times before. It definitely is about ‘Aal Ij Well ‘ with a few great comic moments (the balaatkar vs. chamatkaar speech for instance).

But is it the best movie of 2009 ? You kidding me ? Not by a mile. Once you get past the patches of good, the Bollywood pitfalls are aplenty.

Consider these :

  1. 45 year old budda Aamir Khan & co as 18 year old engineering freshmen ? Ranbir Kapoor, Imran Khan mar gaye hain kya? Or did the first pick, Amitabh Bachchan refuse the lead role ?
  2. Never ending list of pranks that the director Sahastra(Nir)buddhe/teachers put up with. Maybe it is the case in Chopra-Hirani University of Nincompoops ?
  3. Nir-buddhe is a bloody joker, a moron and the worst bully on campus. Was this actually a nut job from a mental asylum masquerading as a director ? If yes, it would make perfect sense.

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  4. Director’s daughter falls for the hero, aided by his other daughter. What got edited : ” Virus, Main tere pothe ki baap banne wala hoon“  by Rancho to Sahastrabuddhe. Of course to help Raju stay in college.   Of Of course, still, ‘Aal ij well ‘.
  5. Rancho ironically berates the rote learning system prevalent in India while he has no qualms hood winking the system in being used by the real Rancho. Majboori you say ? Sure, we audience check our brains at the door anyway, so whatever ..
  6. Ideal toting moron Rancho is the worst offender on campus. Ironic ? Nah, just ‘Aal ij well ‘. If you have a problem, take a cold shower like Rancho, on the college lawn.
  7. Raju’s suicidal fall, coma, miraculous recovery and landing the job on a wheel-chair.  ‘Aal ij too well ‘ there bhaiyye..?
  8. Delivering director buddhi-heen’s grandchild, rain et al with video conferencing, vacuum and a load of bravado to save expulsion is as believable as Dharmendra scaling sky scrapers on his motorcycle in Dreamgirl. And the baby is an ‘Aal ij well ‘ ka aulaad(fan) after all ? The rain disrupts everything sans the college dorm dial-up internet connection that works magically !
  9. Boman Irani in the footsteps of Anupam Kher reducing himself to a stupid caricature ably supported by Kareena ‘what acting’ Kapoorand whatever Madhavan and lacklustre Sharman..
  10. A climax that is as hackneyed as it comes – stop the wedding, bhagao the bride to Rancho (or whatever his darn real name is) who is piling patents in Ladakh waiting for his bride-in-a-helmet and they all sing a happy Kumbayah after all ?

I can keep going, but my top-10 above suffices for now. Sorry to rain in on the idiot party, but that was an average movie at best. Senseless entertainment ? Yes. Great movie ? Not by a mile and definitely not worth the hullabaloo that it is the best of 2009 or best of Bollywood. It just isn’t.

Which is the best of 2009 ?

Glad you asked..

I avoid movies by Dharma Productions. Why ? ‘Kuch Kuch Hota Hai’, ‘Kabhi Khushi Kabhie Gham’,'Kal Ho Na Ho’,'Kabhi Alvida Na Kehna’, what’s to like in that list of K-movies ? Unless you are a big fan of the other “K” obsessed Balaji Telefilms’s Saas-bahu series. Both these production houses excel at over the top, over melodramatic, big family down to the dog in tow under one roof, stinking rich non existent Indian stories that could not be more divorced from reality.

However, in 2009, post ‘Wake Up Sid’ and ‘Kurbaan‘, I am ready to eat crow. Maybe Karan Johar does deserve some of that young entrepreneur praise showered liberally on him after all. Don’t get me wrong, Johar has been a box-office super success. So is Ekta Kapoor. But all that sells is not sensible : Dharma’s outputs sold, but hardly made you sit back, think and admire. At least, not till now.

Post 3-Idiots, I watched Kurbaan. I had heard little about the movie sans the terrorist backdrop and Kareena’s bare back. I was expecting a hackneyed, tear jerkerwith liberal sprinkling of gore. It was from the Dharma stables after all !

But was I surprised..

As the movie unfolded, I was gripped. It had a few weak moments that were few and far in between, but a vast majority of the movie was gripping. It was tight, well thought and executed to such a fineese that I felt it was a Hollywood flick.

Saif’s controlled performance shows his maturity as an actor and he is brilliant in the role. He is charming when romancing Avantika in Delhi and cold to the bone as a terrorist in the later parts of the movie. Vivek Oberoi and Kareena lend very good support. Kareena can act ! Who knew. Om Puri and Kirron Kher are so one with the characters that you are scared of them. The ambiance and the setting add that sense of unease and work well with the tight storyline-screenplay.

Pragmatic plots executed to a perfection end in a great climax to seal the movie. Rensil D’Silva tackles a tough subject on his debut and delivers. It is a shame that it failed at the box-office. Hope the lacklustre performance at the box-office will not push Rensil out of business or toward ‘shake a hip, cry a river’ kind of movies. Same goes for Dharma too. Hope they produce good movies like Kurbaan once in a while that strokes grey matter and seeds a thought as you walk out of a theater.

As far as 3-Idiots, it left me with a confused smile and a ‘whatever’ thought as I walked off..

So if un-adulterated below average flick is ’Aal ij well ’, go check out 45 year bottoms paying ode to the Jahapanah. On the contrary if you need an intelligent, compelling, thought provoking well made movie, Kurbaan it is..

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  • Piyu
    like. like. double-like.
    Am referring to your opinions. I personally felt is was juuuust average. Somehow the book was quite a nice one-time read. Movie failed to catch up.
    I loved Wake up sid. Yet to watch Kurbaan.
    Best
  • I loved Wake Up Sid too ; watched after this. Please check out
    Manorama's take on 3i , it is hilarious
  • Piyu
    Yup! Sure will :)
  • Madhu Rao

    @Anrosh,
    I am not supporting Chetan Bhagat's case. He sold the rights and does not have much of a leg to stand on ; at the same time given people know the movie is based on Chetan's novel, a sensible thing that Chopra & co could have done was give him credits in the opening credits. That was not much of an ask considering in very many movies in Hollywood, the movie names are subtexted with "..based on the book....". They were not needed to, but would have been honorable considering Mr.Chopra generously gifted a RollsRoyce to Mr. Bachchan for his role in the much flopped Eklavya ? 


    The controversey helped both parties and they are counting their loot. So no tears needed.


    Screen writer getting credits ? Yes, in parts and flak for blatantly copying 1990s internet jokes ? Motor starting ; pencil in space ? While in there why not add a few Supandi jokes too ?


              Aamir Khan as 18 is plain stupid and I, like many here, could not get past that. No, that's not what actors do. If a role depicting an entire life , like Brad Pitt in Curious Case... shows a hero as a 16 year old, it is understandable, but a 45 year old masquerading as an 18 year old for the entire length of the movie is pathetic; add two more 40+- morons to that bracket and it is a crying shame. It is plain pandering to the super star that Aamir is.


    Watch this SAG awards acceptance speech for best cast ; pay attention at 2.50 and listen to 'if you are ready for the part, Quentin will give it to you..'. That's movie making ; Aamir in 3i is pandering..
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epGyU-_R10Q


    A TZP, DCH or Lagaan wala Aamir is my favorite too. But him in 3i was just I--making an idiot of himself and making money. It was an average masala flick and not the earth shattering greatest movie of bollywood it's made out to be.


    PS : I'm glad you have not read Manorama's roast of 3i. You may flip :-)


    http://www.indimag.com/2010/01/05/exclusive-interview-with-raju-3-idiots-hirani/

  • don' get hung up on chetan's "enough" credits. he has been payed. isn't it it? should his name been written in 25 size font at the start/end of the movie was not written in the contract or was it.It was chetan's lawyers mistake. if all this was not done , than i can understand.

    if chetan thinks that he did not get his "fair" credit share, may be he should go to court isn't it ? he is not economically oppressed in not doing so, is he.

    i think the script writer should get fair credits for some of the dialogues, except for the preachy scenes again and again and again.

    chetan's seems to be a prolific writer and is a popular writer who writes of our times, which is a good thing and will become our archive for the future generation - for that he gets credited.

    do you remember the scene of the director giving the pen - in many ways the a scene is picked from the movie - the beautiful mind ".

    amir khan pushes the bar when it comes to projecting issue based movies - ( he is defintely not reached the likes of french movies, which is way better than any hollywood movie) he has not disappoined with lagaan or taare jamin par, for whatever we do not like him for being picked as an actor/director, that's the same reason we like him too - his arrogance in being creative and a bold attitude in putting forth that has not been done before. oh! he is definitely a decent actor ( comeon, him being 45 and acting 18 - that is wahat a actor's job is. ) he is definitely better than 95% of the indian film industry -
  • Madhu Rao

    @Shruthi, It was sure 'lochas aplenty' for me. Welcome to INDImag and thank you for the comment. Amir like an adult dyslexic ? :-) , he sure was made to look like one ! I agree on the humor lacking in freshness, some -- pencil in rocket, motor starting are a decade old jokes on the internet !


    You may want to try Mano's satirical roast of 3i . Many liked it better than the movie :-)


    http://www.indimag.com/2010/01/05/exclusive-interview-with-raju-3-idiots-hirani/


    Please keep coming back !

  • Shruthi
    Ditto ditto to everything you said.. Since the release i heard so much from everyone that I kinda knew there was gonna be some "locha". Getting tickets was a task by itself, here in Bangalore. When I finally watched it was a disappointment. Though entertaining in bits it was just plain Jane for me. As for Amir, he looked more like an adult dyslexic (no offense... i'm one myself) with a bit of a developmental issue. As for the humor some of it is just over the top.. especially the speech, after the first two instances it just got redundant and jarring.

    Liked the treatment to some bits of the film like the sepia and the background score to Sharman Joshi's thread. Cant scratch my head for more!! :)
  • Mukta Matta
    I am so so glad to find nay-sayers.
    Being an Aamir and Hirani fan, I set out for this flick on the first day itsef.
    I was hugely disappointed with the movie.
    As you mentioned, good in parts, but overall, a major letdown.
    Compared with Munnabhai series, this movie had no "emotional connection", no magical moments that will stay with the viewer forever.
    As a standalone product too, the movie lacked depth.
    Rancho's character is way too perfect for an 18 year old. I would have been happier had the role been completely modelled on Ryan Oberoi from 5 point someone. He was a genius and had faults too.
    Again, watching Aamir gave me a sense of de ja vu. The scenes brought back memories of Taare Zameen Par. There a perfect teacher, here a perfect student !
    The Story should have given equal prominence to the other 2 idiots as well.

    All said, about the best movies of 2009, I would rate Rocket Singh as no. 1. An amazing watch, very well made movie. Gulaal too ranks high on my list.
  • @Mukta,
    You hit the nail on the head, Rancho was a tad too perfect and hence, ironically, flawed. Perfect to a fault. I would have rather Hirani retained the flaws of Ryan Oberoi. But .. :-)

    Deja vu is a big reason why it is raking in the bucks. Just that it does not deserve all the praise and superlatives being heaped ..

    Will check out Rocket & Gulaal. You should review them :-)
  • Well the movie made me laugh... 2 and half hours of absolute fun... well the part where the baby comes out dead and is got back to life by saying aal iz well was just too silly... but then its a bollywood movie right? You have to expect this to happen hehe
    .-= Tavish´s last blog : ..Now a seperate state for Cyberabad? =-.
  • I understand Tavish. As a matter of fact that's what a lot of people like Neha, Jaunty, Karthik have said -- check your brains at the door and just enjoy it as mindless entertainment . Will try it next time, maybe :-) . But, like others have noted here, some things were too glaring to be overlooked and interfered with the narrative
  • Madhu Rao
    @Neha,
    You are right. It works a lot better if you stop looking for sense and logic :-)

    @Bangaloreloka,
    I think Big-B was their first choice... ;-) . Not much of difference between 46 & 64(ish)

    @Neeraj,
    I know. Though they may have the contract and can play hard-ball, the right thing to do would have been to do the honorable thing and mention his name as the inspiration in bold and at the beginning . If a religious group or a politician had a grouse, however flimsy the reason they would have bent over backwards . Or if it was a Bachchan gracing their movie they(VVC) take the onus to compensate him extra with a RollsRoyce !

    Lawer Sahiba, what's your take on 3i vs. Bhagat ? :-)
  • Hi Madhu,

    Disappointing.... very disappointing. I dropped by in anticipation of your usual great stuff after the momentary break. And, film reviews and critique et al was the last thing I wanted to see. And, I am no big fan of writings that try to connect movies with message either. Anyway, waiting for the next post in anticipation... :-)

    PS: By the way, my personal favorite from last year was Kaminey. Kurbaan was good, but the screenplay wasn't water-tight.
    .-= Talking Skull´s last blog : ..Kolkata declares Independence!! =-.
  • Madhu Rao
    @Talking Skull,
    Uhh-oh ! We dread disappointing our commenters and when it is a 'Talking Skull' to boot, kinda makes us fret :-) . Welcome to INDImag and appreciate the honesty ; but do tell us what you liked from before that this does not measure up to.

    How about we make it up to you ? I'm sure the post slated for tomorrow is very much up your alley -- it's a roast of 3i. Do let us know what you feel :-)
  • I kinda support the cause of the author Chetan Bhagat who was not recognized well! The movie might be good but it cannot beat - five point someone!
    .-= Neeraj Shinde´s last blog : ..As The Sun Of Today Goes Down =-.
  • LOL they shld have taken Amitabh Bachchan =)) He looks much younger :D :D heh.. haven't watched it yet. I know that sounds sucky :/
    .-= Bangaloreloka´s last blog : ..Auto Expo 2010 – Mercedes Benz Launches GL 350 CDI And Benz S500L Images Photos Gallery =-.
  • I quite enjoyed the movie; of course apart from those couple of cliched scenes..well the reason is simple behind me liking it - I have long back stopped looking for sense and logic in most of the hindi movies..jus go, lay back and enjoy it.. :)
    .-= Neha´s last blog : ..People Again! =-.
  • Anu
    Hey Madhu,

    Finally a sensible review after so much of hype. I agree with u, 3i is definitely not the best movie of the year.. now thats too much. We certainly have had better flicks THAN this in the past year, though I don't see any harm in taking Aamir for the movie... :) I dont think he looks his age anyway, lol. The climax was disastrous. Whoever thought of a delivery on a tennis table.. And guess what, that 'aal izz well' to make the baby cry was the last nail on the coffin. Halfway thru the movie, I decided not to use my brains. Everything was smooth after that :)

    The movie worked for me in parts.. The part about pursuing your dreams no mater what made absolute sense, though I felt the movie overall had too much of the typical Bollywood masala to it.

    Lol@KJo. He is certainly trying new stuff. Haven't watched Kurbaan, but I am scared of My Name is Khan. The title itself scares me :D Let me know if u watch it.
    .-= Anu´s last blog : ..56. He is mine and mine alone!! =-.
  • Madhu Rao
    @Anu,
    Welcome to INDImag and appreciate the comment. The 'Aal iJ well' post the baby birth was the last straw for me too ! But unlike you I got progressively pissed thereafter ; should try resting my overactive brain the next time around :-) . It was a pure formula movie and that's what disappointed me as well.

    Please stop by tomorrow, another author has a hilarious take on 3i ; yeah, looks like this is idiot bashing week for us ! :-)
  • Madhu Rao

    @Manorama, I was expecting to get basted but am pleasantly surprised by quite a few people who were not so ga-ga about the movie, you included :-) . I couldn't agree more about the chemistry and the bonding between Munna and Circuit and the lack of it in 3I. 3I was certainly a movie made in a hurry and something that was put together top down -- get Aamir and pander to him than the story being the king and dictating the flow/parts.


    Ranbir is certainly the guy to watch. He would have made a good idiot ! :-)


    I read your roast of 3I in a mail and I was in splits. I've seen very few people who can do comedy with such ease and panache.We would love it if you will let us guest post that mail or better if you can join INDImag and contribute/cross post of such nature .


    No pressure, just an open invitation if you deem it worthwhile..

  • Hi Madhu,

    Finally! a review that makes sense ! You have hit the nail on the head, point to point.
    I actually loved Munnabhai MBBS and Lage Raho and went to catch 3i with high expectations- and was extremely disappointed ! I felt this was a movie-made-in-a-hurry, where the charcters lacked author backed roles, jokes were stale and performances were not sincere and from the heart. If you look at the chemistry between Munna and Circuit and then look at the 3 idiots - it feels like there's no bonding!! And that's what college days are about!
    Lacklustre Sharman-right on !! And what was wrong with Boman Irani?? Godness! And the lisping effect has been done to death by Shahid in Kaminey so what's novel about that ? Am sure Boman has lived in Maharashtra long enough to know the pecularities of Konkanastha Brahmins and imbibe them in his performance, just the way he did his homework for Sardarjis for Lage Raho.Verry disappointing!
    I didn't watch too many movies in 2009, but according to me the year belongs to Ranbir Kapoor and Rocket Singh !!!
  • Madhu Rao
    @Shruthi(Xperiences-in-life),
    You spoke for my in your comments. Aamir acted the part more convincingly than any 45 year old Bollywood actor could have. But the fact of the matter is that he is 45 and not 25. We have had problems when ageing heroes romance heroines 1/2 their age. So why make an exception for Aamir ? Or Salman or SRK for that matter. Looks like a bad case of Budhe pe jawani uthar aayi..

    @Jaunty,
    Time pass. Yes. But my peev is with people who say it's the best thing on earth after vada-pav :-)
  • Lots said..by the commenters above..doesn't leave me with anything different to tell ya..but yes I liked the movie..may not be the best movie...but was one worth-watching Paisa-vasool movie!!
    .-= Jaunty Anima´s last blog : ..Musings =-.
  • Know what? When I saw 3 Idiots, throughout the film, I was thinking, Why did they cast Amir in the lead! I just cant imagine him and madhavan as coll students. The former with wrinkled facial skins and the latter's broad shoulder and the matured look!
    And I was feeling "What a heck climax this is!"
    Goto ladakh-take u turn-goto manali-pick bride-goto ladakh! huh!!

    Why so much hype was created for this movie? I really expected something after seeing all those promos and hypes they created and ended up in utter disappointment!
    .-= Shruti´s last blog : ..A-Z =-.
  • Madhu Rao
    @Karthik,
    Tell me about "A Wednesday" and it's likes. It pains to see good thought provoking movies suffer that fate.

    I like 'follow your dream' as a thought. But given the limited avenues and the money in pursuing your dream, it remains just a thought. Ex. I'm sure very many of us love blogging to the extent that we would love to make it a profession ; but is it a sustainable profession ? In the west it kinda is ; in India it isn't. Not yet at least. But when you do hear a Kalyan Varma do it, makes you feel happy for him..

    I loved the movie in parts. But it would not be a best of 2009 leave alone best ever like some critics are raving :-)
  • Madhu Rao
    @Shruthi,
    :-) I have never like any of Saif's roles sans Dil Chahta Hai and I must admit I did like his measured performance in Kurbaan. Yes it was not explosive or hard hitting, but it definitely worked for me.

    Kaminay to me had scope but was sacrificed at the altar cheaply. The movie shot in dull, fading monochrome, made it awfully difficult to watch. It had good parts but was no Satya or Omkara.

    I'm somehow dreading 'My Name Is Khan', SRK will be himself and so will Johar ; especially given their recent statements about the movie being a love story at the heart of it. Melodrama, Tears and Box-office success is how it will pan out ..(not my type !) :-)
  • Madhu Rao
    @Sojo,
    I agree. I think Chopra & Co should have handled Bhagat's credits with a tad more dignity than how it's playing out in the media. They may have the contract on their side and sure maybe entitled to act tough, but it sure does not come across as dignified.

    On Aamir & co portraying 18 year olds -- it's not about acting there Sojo, it is just plain pandering to Aamir. A Brad Pitt essaying every stage of his life in a 'Curious Case Of Benjamin Button' is acting. Aamir Khan essaying a 18 year old for 75-80% of the movie and a 25 year old for the remainder is just bad casting and plain pandering -- star being bigger than the story.
    He sure acted the part but looked old. He had a tough time passing off as a college kid in Dil Chahta Hai and that was eons ago..
  • I agree with most of the points you've mentioned. Taking a shower on the college lawn, delivering the baby, Rancho preaching the director again and again, and most important of all, the director looking like a bloke - all these things are too silly and immature. But I still liked the movie. One of the main reasons is that I could relate to it a la Harsha. One scene that stands apart and struck a chord with me is that drinking scene on the stairs. And finally Farhan making the decision to follow his dream. I don't love engineering, and if I don't love it I won't be able to do justice to my job in the future. I wont be happy. I know taking a decision like Farhan is not as easy as it seems, but still it really disturbed me a lot.
    So all in all the movie worked well for me.

    And you mentioned Kurbaan's failure. Remember the fate of "A Wednesday"? Can't help it. As long as there are morons like Karan Johar and his fans, movies like Johnny Gaddar, A Wednesday, Gulaal, etc. never do well.
    .-= Karthik´s last blog : ..Bikini Fictions =-.
  • #please read as: acting is about convincing people you are what you are actually not
    .-= Sojo´s last blog : ..@ShashiTharoor playing #Twitronym with Indian Tweeple =-.
  • ermmm.. I haven't watched 3idiots and so have nothing to comment. But I did watch Kurbaan and thought it was just about average. I disagree on Saif being able to act :P I felt the paper, that had some weird map on it, showed better expressions than him :D yeah he is charming in all those Delhi scenes but that's it.
    KJo seems to have suddenly discovered a new concept- 9/11 with a love ishtory backdrop. Its all about loving parents and pyaar dosti hai kinda crap has given way to 'My name is Khan'; similar 9/11 theme with a touch of autism. creativity noDi! :P
    My 2009 pick would be Kaminay, I guess. It was nice and yeah Wake up Sid was nice too. But the year was a disappointment in terms of good releases.
    .-= Shruthi´s last blog : ..year we go again... =-.
  • Madhu, I agree with you that 3i is an average flick.[And I am really irritated about the way they handled Chetan's Credits] However, I can't see why Aamir & Co should not be doing the roles that they did. As I understand, acting is about convincing people what you are actually not. It doesn't matter if you are 18 or 80. If Aamir can convince us that he is 18, well, why not?
    .-= Sojo´s last blog : ..@ShashiTharoor playing #Twitronym with Indian Tweeple =-.
  • Hi Madhu,
    I loved the movie and I will tell you why. Movies are all about capturing the emotions of the people, and this movie excels in doing so.
    The character Farhan I could relate it to my life. I was the worst student in my electronics engg class couldn't clear most of my subjects, I took it up coz my father told me to, I spent all my three years of engg praying to God, one fine day dad would come to me and say 'If u can't do engg give it up, do anything u like'. So when I watch the same thing happen on screen I feel i am not alone there are other people who think like me, so that one part of the movie was enough for me to look over all its other flaws. That is exactly why everyone loves the movie, call me an Idiot but the movie for me rocks :)
    so this movie is the best only for its few moments but those few moments are good enough to make it the best.

    P.S: You should have watched it in a single theatre in Bangalore, there were times when I couldn't hear anything due to the whistling and clapping, so I guess it struck a chord with the Idiots all over.
    .-= Harsha´s last blog : ..Malnad Diary =-.
  • Madhu Rao
    @Harsha,
    Hey good to see you back. I did see the responses the movie has got (news clips etc and it was pretty loud and well cheered here as well). I'm not denying that it will be a huge hit. That's a given. I do concede that it strikes a chord ...it is about all things we all can relate to.... But it's the emotion and the developing of the characters that I missed. Farhan's confrontation with his dad ; the friendship blossomming between friends (a la Dil Chahta Hai) was missing. It was big on pranks and low on logic and true moving emotions.

    I can understand how Farhan's character struck a chord with you, but how many can do what Farhan did ? I have heard of 1 guy who did just that -- Kalyan Varma a photographer in Bangalore who has done amazingly well for himself post quitting a good IT job, but sans that the movie is preachy and contradicts it's own message..

    I do agree the movie has it's moments. But unfortunately just those with a load of cliches did not work for me :-(
  • While the movie was certainly not as good as the hype suggested, I enjoyed it, and I don't think it's as bad as you make it out to be. Due to a lack of time, I'll just post my thoughts on a few of the points you've brought up.

    1. I don't see what's wrong with casting Aamir Khan in the role. In fact, his preparation for the role and his acting as a college student were pretty good, from the way he scratches his head to the way he walks with his hands in his pocket.

    2. Yes, some portions of the movie are over the top, which I didn't appreciate either. And these are the portions that reduce an otherwise great movie to a level that is a little below greatness.

    3. Yes, all is too well in the movie. There was a definite lack of darkness that was present in the book "Five Point Someone", which in my opinion would have added a little more depth and realism to the movie, but possibly have dwindled its profits.

    4. You will be surprised at how many pranks engineering students can pull and get away with. While it's not depicted in the movie, Rancho's expulsion from class on multiple occasions is pretty much the standard punishment given out to students.

    I think you should also try to focus on some of the positives of the film. The scene depicting the first class attended by the protagonists is hard-hitting and extremely real. Professors are infatuated with text-book definitions of terms and concepts, and this is a fact of Indian education that needs to change.

    My major nit-pick with the film is that it has a great opportunity to showcase the shortcomings of the education system of India and the faults of our society, but it falls short. Most issues are addressed superficially which could have been addressed in greater depth.

    Also, the whole movie becomes more a tribute to Rancho and his love of learning rather than the story of 3 sort of misfits struggling in college. It could have been called "An Idiot and His Two Friends".
  • Madhu Rao
    @Gurdit,
    Welcome to INDImag. My responses :

    1. Aamir Khan played the part, yes. But the fact of the matter is he is not 18 and it's trying to pass off lie. I have the same issues when a 45 year old Salman or 50 year old Sanjay Dutt are running around trees. Star should not trump the story requirement.

    2. Agree sans the greatness part :-)

    3. Agree. I prefer some plots in the book better.

    I couldn't agree more on how the movie was “An Idiot and His Two Sidekicks” and how it could have made a better-bolder statement on the education system in India. The superficiality and the inherent contradictions : Rancho totes ideology and how rote learning is bad but he himself is a bad egg breaking rules left and right. There were some real moments like the first lecture, the balaatkar speech that were unique and novel, but for most parts the movie was made for Aamir and the characters did not develop and mature for me to appreciate it..
  • Agree with you. I felt the movie to be silly too. Just a timepass brainless movie
    .-= Avada Kedavra´s last blog : ..Movies of 2009 =-.
  • Madhu Rao
    @Avada,
    I did not expect the first commenter on the post to agree with me ! :-) Thanks, so I'm not totally nuts then !
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