Comments on: The State(s) of India for Dummies http://www.indimag.com/2009/12/11/the-states-of-india-for-dummies/ Stories Circa India... Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:44:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: Madhu Rao http://www.indimag.com/2009/12/11/the-states-of-india-for-dummies/comment-page-1/#comment-934 Madhu Rao Tue, 22 Dec 2009 18:48:02 +0000 http://www.indimag.com/?p=1595#comment-934 @Narendra, You said it. If we keep slicing our country, there's no end to it. We should look at solving the issues and slicing up is no solution.. @Alltalknoaction, Hey good to see you back ! I'll pour over the swaminomics and respond, but on the first link, like I told Mahesh above, the first comment on the link summarizes my view-point ; here it is again.. <b><u>Article too academic and divorced from reality</b></u> By: Ganesh Patwardhan | 16-Dec-2009 The underlying assumption in the article appears to be that there is a will to govern and size hinders effective administration. Here’s another point of view: Every new state means new assembly / council, new set of cabinet ministers, new houses (lifelong free tenancy?) for the assembly and council members, new police force and opportunity to exercise control over it, new High Courts, other judiciary all the allied paraphernalia, more avenues for political careers for sons/daughters/other relatives, new cars, new helicopters, higher vanity enhancing security grades and ‘black cats’, new powers of patronage, trips abroad with entourage of sixty odd including family members and relatives and five-star hotel stays and so on endlessly. Only then will it be possible for these honorees to extend their valuable service to the ‘poorest of the poor’! Does this explain the clamor for new states? First demonstrate the will to administer by evicting the (at present count) 14 odd ex-MP squatters. @Narendra, You said it. If we keep slicing our country, there’s no end to it. We should look at solving the issues and slicing up is no solution..

@Alltalknoaction,
Hey good to see you back !

I’ll pour over the swaminomics and respond, but on the first link, like I told Mahesh above, the first comment on the link summarizes my view-point ; here it is again..

Article too academic and divorced from reality

By: Ganesh Patwardhan | 16-Dec-2009

The underlying assumption in the article appears to be that there is a will to govern and size hinders effective administration. Here’s another point of view: Every new state means new assembly / council, new set of cabinet ministers, new houses (lifelong free tenancy?) for the assembly and council members, new police force and opportunity to exercise control over it, new High Courts, other judiciary all the allied paraphernalia, more avenues for political careers for sons/daughters/other relatives, new cars, new helicopters, higher vanity enhancing security grades and ‘black cats’, new powers of patronage, trips abroad with entourage of sixty odd including family members and relatives and five-star hotel stays and so on endlessly. Only then will it be possible for these honorees to extend their valuable service to the ‘poorest of the poor’! Does this explain the clamor for new states? First demonstrate the will to administer by evicting the (at present count) 14 odd ex-MP squatters.

]]> By: alltalkandnoaction http://www.indimag.com/2009/12/11/the-states-of-india-for-dummies/comment-page-1/#comment-932 alltalkandnoaction Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:15:08 +0000 http://www.indimag.com/?p=1595#comment-932 Madhu, I differ on this subject. Attaching 2 links which provide good food for thought for smaller states - http://www.indianexpress.com/news/from-28-to-45/554309/0 http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Swaminomics/entry/the-economic-case-for-creating If, economic development is the basis of separation, then it makes sense. Madhu,

I differ on this subject.

Attaching 2 links which provide good food for thought for smaller states –

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/from-28-to-45/554309/0

http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Swaminomics/entry/the-economic-case-for-creating

If, economic development is the basis of separation, then it makes sense.

]]> By: Narendra http://www.indimag.com/2009/12/11/the-states-of-india-for-dummies/comment-page-1/#comment-929 Narendra Sun, 20 Dec 2009 02:21:47 +0000 http://www.indimag.com/?p=1595#comment-929 Its like you start creating states and our kids will have trouble learning the names! then noone will bother to learn about states and people living their..cos then it is too much of burden on our kids...similarly ppl/govt will stop listening to these smaller states...because they then become insignificant...no elections for such states,..WHO CARES!! no judiciary for such states! crime rate sky rocketting!no proper representation of small states in assemblies I DONT CARE,MY STATE IS NOT CONCERNED..(you separated..ab AB BHUKTO!!)..eventually there wil be enmity within states/leaders/people!!..we will creat INDIA-PAK within INDIA!! (PAK is wondering..!!:P ) in short IMHO this is a disaster!! .-= Narendra´s last blog : ..<a href="http://frozenwell.wordpress.com/2009/12/17/untitled-poem/" rel="nofollow">Untitled</a> =-. Its like you start creating states and our kids will have trouble learning the names! then noone will bother to learn about states and people living their..cos then it is too much of burden on our kids…similarly ppl/govt will stop listening to these smaller states…because they then become insignificant…no elections for such states,..WHO CARES!! no judiciary for such states! crime rate sky rocketting!no proper representation of small states in assemblies I DONT CARE,MY STATE IS NOT CONCERNED..(you separated..ab AB BHUKTO!!)..eventually there wil be enmity within states/leaders/people!!..we will creat INDIA-PAK within INDIA!! (PAK is wondering..!!:P )

in short IMHO this is a disaster!!
.-= Narendra´s last blog : ..Untitled =-.

]]> By: Madhu Rao http://www.indimag.com/2009/12/11/the-states-of-india-for-dummies/comment-page-1/#comment-927 Madhu Rao Sat, 19 Dec 2009 15:02:12 +0000 http://www.indimag.com/?p=1595#comment-927 @Mona, Tell me about it. Add to that these decisions are being made without a thought for how this will fan sentiments.. @Mona,
Tell me about it. Add to that these decisions are being made without a thought for how this will fan sentiments..

]]> By: mona http://www.indimag.com/2009/12/11/the-states-of-india-for-dummies/comment-page-1/#comment-923 mona Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:54:02 +0000 http://www.indimag.com/?p=1595#comment-923 History repeats itself... Wait for the day when we have small kingdoms(states) ruled by a Super King(India).... That was an excellent map you picked up. .-= mona´s last blog : ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/monahere/~3/kCyixb1qnUI/cutie-cat-hands-up.html" rel="nofollow">Cutie Cat - Hands Up</a> =-. History repeats itself… Wait for the day when we have small kingdoms(states) ruled by a Super King(India)….

That was an excellent map you picked up.
.-= mona´s last blog : ..Cutie Cat – Hands Up =-.

]]> By: mona http://www.indimag.com/2009/12/11/the-states-of-india-for-dummies/comment-page-1/#comment-922 mona Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:53:21 +0000 http://www.indimag.com/?p=1595#comment-922 History repeats itself... Wait for the day when we have small kingdoms(states) ruled by a Super King(India).... .-= mona´s last blog : ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/monahere/~3/kCyixb1qnUI/cutie-cat-hands-up.html" rel="nofollow">Cutie Cat - Hands Up</a> =-. History repeats itself… Wait for the day when we have small kingdoms(states) ruled by a Super King(India)….
.-= mona´s last blog : ..Cutie Cat – Hands Up =-.

]]> By: Madhu Rao http://www.indimag.com/2009/12/11/the-states-of-india-for-dummies/comment-page-1/#comment-920 Madhu Rao Fri, 18 Dec 2009 00:24:26 +0000 http://www.indimag.com/?p=1595#comment-920 @Mahesh, Read the article and my response would be what the first commenter on the post has posted. Just look at what has happened now, split into 5 pieces and Naidu and Chiranjeevi doing a volte face and the center following suit .. <b><u>Article too academic and divorced from reality</u></b> By: Ganesh Patwardhan | 16-Dec-2009 The underlying assumption in the article appears to be that there is a will to govern and size hinders effective administration. Here's another point of view: Every new state means new assembly / council, new set of cabinet ministers, new houses (lifelong free tenancy?) for the assembly and council members, new police force and opportunity to exercise control over it, new High Courts, other judiciary all the allied paraphernalia, more avenues for political careers for sons/daughters/other relatives, new cars, new helicopters, higher vanity enhancing security grades and 'black cats', new powers of patronage, trips abroad with entourage of sixty odd including family members and relatives and five-star hotel stays and so on endlessly. Only then will it be possible for these honorees to extend their valuable service to the 'poorest of the poor'! Does this explain the clamor for new states? First demonstrate the will to administer by evicting the (at present count) 14 odd ex-MP squatters. @Mahesh,
Read the article and my response would be what the first commenter on the post has posted. Just look at what has happened now, split into 5 pieces and Naidu and Chiranjeevi doing a volte face and the center following suit ..

Article too academic and divorced from reality

By: Ganesh Patwardhan | 16-Dec-2009

The underlying assumption in the article appears to be that there is a will to govern and size hinders effective administration. Here’s another point of view: Every new state means new assembly / council, new set of cabinet ministers, new houses (lifelong free tenancy?) for the assembly and council members, new police force and opportunity to exercise control over it, new High Courts, other judiciary all the allied paraphernalia, more avenues for political careers for sons/daughters/other relatives, new cars, new helicopters, higher vanity enhancing security grades and ‘black cats’, new powers of patronage, trips abroad with entourage of sixty odd including family members and relatives and five-star hotel stays and so on endlessly. Only then will it be possible for these honorees to extend their valuable service to the ‘poorest of the poor’! Does this explain the clamor for new states? First demonstrate the will to administer by evicting the (at present count) 14 odd ex-MP squatters.

]]> By: mahesh kalaal http://www.indimag.com/2009/12/11/the-states-of-india-for-dummies/comment-page-1/#comment-919 mahesh kalaal Thu, 17 Dec 2009 18:57:03 +0000 http://www.indimag.com/?p=1595#comment-919 Hi Madhu, This link(Indian Express) is not regarding Telangana, but related to your blog topic. It has presented some other perspectives too which may help us to have more comprehensiveness in our discussion Why We need small states @ http://www.indianexpress.com/news/from-28-to-45/554309/0 .-= mahesh kalaal´s last blog : ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Wisdomism/~3/zMPCD9IWZ1Y/telangaana.html" rel="nofollow">Telangana</a> =-. Hi Madhu,

This link(Indian Express) is not regarding Telangana, but related to your blog topic.
It has presented some other perspectives too which may help us to have more comprehensiveness in our discussion

Why We need small states @
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/from-28-to-45/554309/0
.-= mahesh kalaal´s last blog : ..Telangana =-.

]]> By: Shruthi http://www.indimag.com/2009/12/11/the-states-of-india-for-dummies/comment-page-1/#comment-913 Shruthi Mon, 14 Dec 2009 06:08:15 +0000 http://www.indimag.com/?p=1595#comment-913 :) yeses me too likes Veena stores chutney slurp slurp. oh neevu MES alumni-aa? naanu nimma neighbor, Hymamshu.. .-= Shruthi´s last blog : ..<a href="http://full-meals.blogspot.com/2009/12/heppy-heppy-budday.html" rel="nofollow">Heppy Heppy Budday</a> =-. :) yeses me too likes Veena stores chutney slurp slurp.
oh neevu MES alumni-aa? naanu nimma neighbor, Hymamshu..
.-= Shruthi´s last blog : ..Heppy Heppy Budday =-.

]]> By: Madhu Rao http://www.indimag.com/2009/12/11/the-states-of-india-for-dummies/comment-page-1/#comment-912 Madhu Rao Mon, 14 Dec 2009 05:32:48 +0000 http://www.indimag.com/?p=1595#comment-912 @Shruthi, Namaskara ri. I know, at this rate we will have a state of Malleshwaram soon for sure ! I'm partial to Veena stores ! Not for the idlis but the chutney ! We would walk all the way from MES to Veena stores for idli lunch once a week thought there were many darshinis and MES cafeteria ... @Shruthi,
Namaskara ri. I know, at this rate we will have a state of Malleshwaram soon for sure ! I’m partial to Veena stores ! Not for the idlis but the chutney ! We would walk all the way from MES to Veena stores for idli lunch once a week thought there were many darshinis and MES cafeteria …

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